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Is Mary McKnight a Black Hat SEO?

I practice and experiment with all forms of SEO which includes black hat techniques. Why? Because in order to speak with any authority on the overall subject of SEO, shouldn't I know how to practice and apply each discipline within the study?

My rant on why everyone should have a basic understanding of what white, gray and black hat SEO can and should be used for.

So, every once in a while I get a comment or a cluster of comments (suspiciously from the same IP yet registered to different emails and domains, hmmm... how diabolical of you) where I get told I don't know what I am talking about or I am a black hat SEO and give black hat (I guess this is the code for "bad") advice. Let's set the record straight here. I am an active member of a number of black hat forums. I practice and experiment with all forms of SEO which includes black hat techniques. Why? Because in order to speak with any authority on the overall subject of SEO, shouldn't I know how to practice and apply each discipline within the study? You don't go to medical school and say "I will read the books but not cut the cadaver" or "I know this is about the whole body but I'm not interested in learning about the anus - I just don't feel right about it."

OK, back to the topic at hand. So, yeah, I know some black hat stuff. Could I make a living at it? Probably not, but I understand and can effectively use the principles to get a site to the top of the engines very quickly for valuable terms. Does that make me a "black hat?" In some people's eyes it may. Do I take offense to it? No. I consider it a compliment. When I get a comment asserting that I am a black hat, it indicates that the commenter recognized I had a knowledge base of more than just white hat SEO. So, while, the commenter more often than not cannot correctly identify black hat tactics, I still consider it a great compliment that they felt my knowledge base extended to things he is too "ethical" to study.

So, for you to understand what the various disciplines within the study of SEO are here is my explanation:

SEO techniques are classified by some into three broad categories:

White Hat:

Definition:

Search engine placement that results from completely natural built backlinks and optimized HTML. This is the Google approved version of SEO where you optimize your on page content and code then naturally and virally build backlinks.

Time line to results:

Depending on the competitiveness of your keyword, White Hat SEO can be a slow and laborious process. However if you want a site to stick around in the engines, you need to use these tactics.

Consequences:

WILL NOT GET YOU PENALIZED OR BANNED IN SEARCH RESULTS BUT CAN TAKE A LONG TIME TO SEE RESULTS

What types of sites to use this tactic on:

Sites that need to rank and stay ranked for long periods of time

Strategies:

Exact match domains, title tag optimization, meta data optimization, content richness, keyword density, HTML optimization, consistent, natural and viral backlink building, etc.

Gray Hat:

Definition:

That which is mostly white hat but may push the limits and is designed to aggressively seek backlinks - this mostly applies to off page SEO and the acquisition of backlinks - meaning, you are actively commenting for backlinks with keyword rich text, buying directory listings, reciprocating links with others, duplicating/syndicating content, etc. These tactics generally will not get you banned, but when used too aggressively can get you penalized, meaning they can cause some results dampening.

Time line to results:

Rankings can improve very quickly

Consequences:

MIGHT GET YOU PENALIZED OR BANNED IN SEARCH RESULTS IF USED TOO AGGRESSIVELY

What types of sites to use this tactic on:

There is always a fine line between white and gray hat and most "white" sites do use some gray strategies like link exchanging or blogrolling, so the same types of sites that would use white hat would also use gray hat.

Strategies:

keyword richness (bordering on spammy), moderate use of mirror sites or doorway pages, duplicate content, link purchases, aggressive link building, reciprocal link exchanges, etc.

Black Hat:

Definition:

Black Hat SEO (so often considered bad) has its place and purpose. Just because it's place and purpose might not be within the real estate sphere does not make it evil. So, let's explain it. Black Hat SEO works. It can get you to the top of the engines quickly for valuable keywords. You can make a lot of money using it and a lot of people do. The key to making this strategy work is to using the right tools, implementing the principles strategically and using them in moderation.

Time line to results:

Depending on the competitiveness of a keyword you can see results very very quickly. Sometimes within a day - for more competitive terms you can see placement within a few weeks.

Strategies: Computer generated content, blog farming, spamdexing, link buys, link exchanges, doorway pages, mirror sites, duplicated content, link dumping, trackback/comment spamming, etc.

Consequences:

MORE THAN LIKELY WILL EVENTUALLY GET YOU PENALIZED OR BANNED IN SEARCH RESULTS AND CAN CAUSE FULL SITE DEINDEXING

What types of sites to use this tactic on:

Not every product, business or website requires indefinite positioning on a search engine. For example, subscription based and time sensitive sites might not need to have indefinite placement.

Subscription Based Service Application

Let's say you want to build a subscription based service with a volume of repeat clients. So, you go after one of the most coveted terms on earth "Buy Viagra." To make money on this term you need to get to the top of the engines fast, stay there for a few months, build your clientele and just sit back and collect on the monthly recurring from your cache of repeat customers. It's not necessary for you to be on top forever- just long enough to build critical mass.

Time Sensitive Application

Not every website can wait to get that positioning - for example, if you had an event in one month and you started a website today - this site needs to rank for reasonably competitive terms very quickly in order for you to promote the event effectively online, what would you do? To get the word out online you need to get to the top of the engines fast and once the event is over- there is no reason to stay on top of the engines, so if the site gets penalized later, there is no real downside for you.

Could black hatting be used in real estate?

Possibly. One application that may work in real estate would be a single property site. In the current market, I wouldn't imagine this would be effective as homes sit on the market for a while, but in a seller's market, black hatting a SPS to the top might actually be beneficial. I would love to hear if anyone has ever tried this.

Strategies:

Reputation management, blog farming, computer generated content, doorway pages, mirror sites, excessive duplicate content, excessive link buying/trading, link farming campaigns, etc.

*Note: I have listed some of the strategies used within the various disciplines - there are plenty of others, but for the sake a time, I listed the most common. I specifically left out many black hat techniques related to competitive warfare and reputation management. Since these tactics can be used maliciously to sabotage a site, I do not recommend or use then in this industry and will not discuss them if asked, so don't bother emailing me about the topic. If you truly want to learn, join a forum. You can, however, email me for a list of favorite forums for this.

As you can see, white, gray, black hat SEO all have their purpose and applications - that does not mean any one of these is "evil." It just means that you need to know what each strategy can accomplish, what the consequences are and weigh that against the goal for the site.

Resource: Very Cool White, Gray and BlackHat SEO (one of whcih is so feakin' illegal, I am just itching to try it) secrets from SEOmoz's Give Up Whiteboard Friday.

Disclaimer:

Yes, I am fully aware some spaz will pick up this post and tell everyone I admitted to being a black hat. If you feel like this statement speaks to you, please, scurry back to your computer in your Mamma's basement and write your thesis/compendium/manifesto/third grade spelling test on How Mary McKnight has crippled the industry/given you, the ethically ignorant SEO a bad name/made that butterfly flap it's wings and caused the tsunami that gave 5 babies feline leukemia. Don't rush, take your time, think it out. I wait for crazy.

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Posted on May 24, 2008 20:21:16
Comment from: KC Investments [Visitor] Email · http://www.bbqcapital.com

Bwwaaaahahahahahahahahaha.  You've got to stop.  I'm begging you!  :)


Now I have to go back to work to save up for business cards. 

PermalinkPermalink May 24, 2008 20:42:39
Comment from: Guest [Visitor] Email · http://www.rsspieces.com
Mary.McKnight

Oh Chris, you know asking me to give up my evil and often catty ways is useless.  Besides I revel in toying with the mentally challenged.  Is that mean?


Good news for you, though - I'm considering starting a fund to collect used business cards for you. 


Great meeting you at Unchained.

PermalinkPermalink May 24, 2008 21:47:46
Comment from: BawldGuy Talking [Visitor] Email · http://www.bawldguy.com
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You get consistently magnificent results, Mary. Unfortunately the green monster raises its ugly head whenever he sees this. 


Great stuff -- makes sense. Thanks

PermalinkPermalink May 25, 2008 00:34:16
Comment from: Laurie Manny [Visitor] Email · http://www.longbeachrealestatehome.com/
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You are just cracking me up!  That's actually not a terrible idea for single property websites.  What a shame though that the address URL would be placed in the sandbox and could never be reused.  Here in California homes are turned over quite often, would have to get creative with the URL. 

PermalinkPermalink May 25, 2008 00:42:28
Comment from: Cyndee Haydon [Visitor] Email · http://www.clearwaterrealestatetampahomes.com

OMG - you crack me up!! I'm with Chris on this one - I needed a good laugh today. I think you did an excellent job explaining the SEO styles and none of it's as black and white as the church choir likes to profess.    


 

PermalinkPermalink May 25, 2008 08:16:03
Comment from: David [Visitor] Email · http://www.wildwoodsliving.com
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I thought it clever how you incorporated the word "Anus" into a story about SEO.

PermalinkPermalink May 25, 2008 08:19:29
Comment from: julie.ferenzi [Member] Email · http://www.chicagorealestateplainfieldhomes.com/
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julie.ferenzi

The disclaimer was priceless!  Funny and smart. 

PermalinkPermalink May 25, 2008 11:04:23
Comment from: Tom Burris [Visitor] Email · http://www.dallasloanguy.com/

You know that you are effective when you get baseless detractions from the jealous competition.

PermalinkPermalink May 25, 2008 11:34:44
Comment from: Sam Chapman [Visitor] Email · http://www.austinrealestateguy.com

It is nice to see a post like this and I hope new webmasters will find it or something like it.  Many people just getting started will use some black hat tactics just out of ignorance.

PermalinkPermalink May 25, 2008 12:33:59
Comment from: Guest [Visitor] Email · http://www.rsspieces.com
Mary.McKnight

Thanks all. What can I say- just about the time, I see the twitter follows from the 3 amigos that think they can come in here and elsewhere and comment as other people and no one will ever know- I thought- hey - you deserve a post for all your efforts.


Also, here are some tips for my serial commenters:


Dear commenters from the same IPs,


If you come in here and leave comments from the same IP with different names I can only assume that you are either:


a: Living with Cybill


b: Are Cybill


c: Are cult members that share a communal computer and commual thought - yes singular but that is a different story altogether.


d: Just learned how to use a 'puter and think that you are anonymous because your yearbook has no signatures either.


e: All of the above with a living in my momma's basement for good measure.


Our analytics- almost got anus in there - show that you are one person on one computer in one location so please challenge me. If you want to come into my site and comment as someone else, think anonymizer. And use an IP that is reasonably close to the place where the person you are pretending to be actually is. You know, something that we cant use big boy tools to figure out where you are. And if you have to make multiple comments, use different IPs for each. Really, this is for my benefit as well as yours, Im tired of thinking of you as the town 'tard. I really want you to step it up so I can just think of you as "special." And not special like Jerry's kid but more like Forrest Gump.


Also- if you want to call me "fat" and "pompous" you need to use a bit of logic here. Simple psychology says - if someone is pompous and full of themselves- they wouldn't be so self-conscious to be bothered that someone calls them fat. So, please, try another insult- use some polysyllabic words or couch them in analogy. A good anagram perhaps would be effective. But really... "fat" is the best you can do??? Here's a tip, word of the day calendar. It can almost be used as a substiture for being clever.


Also, having heard one of you speak last year, I (and others) heard you say that SEO was not "rocket surgery." Hmm... I'm no scientician, but if you are performing surgery on rockets I can only assume that you have failed anatomy classes and probably have left more than a few people dissatisfied.


BTW - A simple port scan of the IP in question shows that this genius doesn't believe in security software. Here's a a tip, keep your special pictures in a place that is less obvious because it was shock to see a weenis on that "girl."

PermalinkPermalink May 25, 2008 12:35:27
Comment from: Teri Isner [Visitor] Email · http://blog.orlandoavenue.com

Black Hat gets you blacklisted and for any professional SEO blogger with influence to suggest or use these techniques to get results to promote his business can ruin an unsuspecting client who then would have to start over. 


We have seen a few of these in the business and how some of them stay in business is unfortunate.  Thank goodness those with RSS pieces blogs can count on experience with results obtained from professionals with the knowledge and experience to help us get the best results.  Prefer best results to black listed anyday and thank goodness for IP addresses that can show you just how and where these comments come from, just boils down to professional jealousy imho.

PermalinkPermalink May 25, 2008 13:27:39
Comment from: Guest [Visitor] Email · http://www.rsspieces.com
Mary.McKnight

Julie,


Yes, the disclaimer... that was my crowning jewel... I think it is very www.thesuperficial.com of me, don't you?  For anyone interested- that and www.idontlikeyouinthatway.com are the 2 best guilty pleasures on the Internet!

PermalinkPermalink May 25, 2008 14:25:07
Comment from: Christopher Myers [Member] Email
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Christopher Myers

Mary you're killing me!  I wish I had it in me to be so eloquent when opening up a can of whoop ass.  I love it! 

PermalinkPermalink May 25, 2008 16:50:26
Comment from: Dennis Blackmore [Visitor] Email · http://www.realestatevirginiabeachhomes.com

I am glad Mary has a PHD in blacktology (kinda rhymes with blackmore).


 


Happy Memorial Day to everyone.

PermalinkPermalink May 25, 2008 18:19:48
Comment from: Tom [Visitor] Email · http://www.therealestatebloggers.com

Great post.


I think you and I cross paths on some of these sites.


For the rest of you, Mary speaks the truth. If you are going to work hard to rank on sites and remain a pure white hat it is still incumbent upon you to learn what others are doing. That very often means addressing the grey and black hat tactics because that is what your competitor is doing.


A dirty secret is if you bust your biggest competitor using shady tactics Google has a reporting function to turn them in. If you never knew what to look for then all you would do is lose business.


Again, great post Mary.


Tom


Oh, and add me as a Twitter friend. :)

PermalinkPermalink May 25, 2008 21:31:33
Comment from: John Wake [Visitor] Email · http://www.homesalenews.com
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Somewhat related. Greg Swann posted yesterday about his Google rankings dropping recently for many keywords.  Has Google tweaked the algo?  BTW, Maureen Frances mentioned in the comments that her rankings fell as well which suggests an algo change rather than a penalty.  What's your take on it?

PermalinkPermalink May 25, 2008 23:10:47
Comment from: Guest [Visitor] Email · http://www.rsspieces.com
Mary.McKnight

John,


Yes, Google tweaked the algo last month and many a site has danced to its demise.


 

PermalinkPermalink May 25, 2008 23:37:02
Comment from: Lisa Heindel [Visitor] Email · http://westbankliving.com
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Still being fairly new to the blogging circle, I have no idea who you are chastizing...only that you did it in a screamingly funny fashion!  Thanks for the laugh this morning.

PermalinkPermalink May 26, 2008 09:34:08
Comment from: James Bridges [Visitor] Email · http://www.onlinerealestatesuccess.com
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Mary, I am glad you shared the different techniques.  Especially as some real estate professionals do contract out their SEO work, I think it is really important for them to know what methods are being used.  Especially if people are paying they are going to want to understand what is being done for their dollar :)

PermalinkPermalink May 26, 2008 11:50:54
Comment from: Don Reedy [Visitor] Email · http://www.buyhalfahouse.com
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Mary,


Wow, you are da bomb!  Smart, skilled and with the moxy to lay it out.  No wonder Laurie loves you.


Looking forward to moving ahead with you this week as I've emailed you since Bloodhound.  Enjoy this holiday, and will talk to you tomorrow.

PermalinkPermalink May 26, 2008 11:53:06
Comment from: Ines [Member] Email · http://www.miamism.com/
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Ines

Of course I KNOW who you are referring to and it's just hilarious.  My hat goes off to you (white and black)! :)

PermalinkPermalink May 26, 2008 22:00:35
Comment from: Joseph Bridges [Visitor] Email · http://www.internetrealestatesuccess.com
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Mary,


Education truly is the key to understanding what is needed for success. My brother and I continually run into people throwing around the word "black hat" and they have absolutely no clue what it means or even how to do it. All aspects of SEO have their place and it is critical to understand how each applies to your business. By reading posts here and on other blogs real estate professionals can not only do the work themselves but they will also realize when they are being scammed.


Joey

PermalinkPermalink May 27, 2008 12:58:24
Comment from: Blanca A [Visitor] Email · http://www.BlancsProperties.com
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Great Article!

PermalinkPermalink June 03, 2008 19:21:40
Comment from: Barry Hurd [Visitor] Email · http://123socialmedia.com

Just caught this.... LoL, thats what I get for being busy. I consider knowledge of "black hat" one of the best things for an online marketer. Especially when it comes to dealing with competitors who may be using black hat techniques to get a white hat site blacklisted (SEO Warfare... it happens.)


Now on the other hand, I don't go around supporting black hat techniques, otherwise all of my articles would be titled like "10 easy ways to blacklist your competitors site" or "Three easy steps to SPAM your enemy" and "The Beginners Guide to Denial of Service Attacks"


No offense to the big Google, but they are just another corporation looking to make a dollar of someone using an advertising system that isn't always they best. It has many flaws and holes. Keeping that in mind, they are still the biggest marketplace in the world, and can provide huge amounts of revenue to smaller businesses and also take them away.


The Underdog in me has a slight problem with that. I usually figure out some way to help the other Underdogs. I don't consider Google to be God, but it sure does seem that many SEO "experts" do.


In a funny frame of mind, you have so many SEO's trying to get on top... and the only one on top is Google.


I think the term "Black Hat" is just too drab myself. I am a big childhood fan of Spy vs Spy... or perhaps we could just call it "Black Ops" or "SEO Special Forces" ?


~Barry


 


 

PermalinkPermalink June 04, 2008 01:31:18
Comment from: Guest [Visitor] Email · http://www.rsspieces.com
Mary.McKnight

Thanks for dropping by Barry.  I loved writing this post.  I think all SEOs know their way aroeund each of the arts and do a lot experimenting with disposable sites to learn what works and what doesn't.  We all need to not just learn from other in field but actually experiment on our own to learn what works in particular industries.  Based on budgets, keyword competition and overall volume of pages related to industry on a site and the Internat as a whole, different tactics needs to be used in different industries.  ROI is an important consideration in any marketing plan and people need to recognize that SEO is a part of their markeitng plan and start actively seeking metrics on their efforts in terms of real dollars not just placement.  SEO and Landing Page Optimization should be closely coupled so you can accurately track conversion and improve it over time.

PermalinkPermalink June 04, 2008 11:27:39
Comment from: doubleagame [Visitor] Email

Nice addendum. Thanks for the thorough run down of the various "hats".

PermalinkPermalink June 05, 2008 12:45:05
Comment from: Ken Jansen [Visitor] Email · http://www.kcsmartmove.com
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Hi Mary,


I am a beginning student of SEO. I have a few sites running. Can you give me an idea of how many sites are "ok" to duplicate or nearly duplicate? Is it two or three ok? Or are you talking 5-10 is bad or is it more 25-100. I just subscribed to your blog on AR. You have some great posts there.


Thanks!

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