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The 7 Worst Pieces of SEO Advice

In the same way you wouldn't get parenting advice from Britney Spears, you don't want SEO advice from a self proclaimed guru that can't rank for their own keywords or can't pass simple SEO analysis.

SEO Spider I have recently encountered a glut of bloggers that have taken some very bad advice in the form of reciprocal linking (this one seems to be repackaged monthly as a comment scheme, blogroll or some other hair-brained idea), too many links on a homepage, more than one H1 tag on a single page, etc. 

There are a lot of sources for SEO advice in the real estate blogosphere, however, you need look at each person doling out that advice.  In the same way you wouldn't get parenting advice from Britney Spears, you don't want SEO advice from a self proclaimed guru that can't rank for their own keywords or can't pass simple SEO analysis.  Look past the fact that a person says they are an SEO expert and look at their ability to successful put multiple websites or blogs on the first page of Google for short tail keywords in difficult markets. 

Who should you trust?

Rand Fishkin of SEOmoz

Aaron Wall of SEOBook

Stephen Spencer of Net Concepts

Matt Cutts of Google

Andy Beal

Michael Gray of GrayWolf SEO Blog

Basically, people that do SEO as a living not a hobby. 

What kind of advice is BAD advice?

Most of the bad SEO advice I have seen lately, looks like it came straight out of 1999: reciprocal linking, large linkage on homepages, increasing the number of pages through open forums, keyword spamming, etc.  What may have worked in 1999 will get you shot through the heart in 2008.  So, listen up kiddies, take notes and DOT NOT FOLLOW the following advice:



1. Change your permalink or url structures for better SEO

When you hear, "hey, this is a better way to structure your urls/permalinks" don't go changing them.  You are indexed based on your existing url structure, so if you change it- you are breaking your links in Google's index.  Irrevocably changing permalink structure on an established site from http://www.sitename/category-name/post-title to  http://www.sitename/date/post-title  will throw your site out of the search engines for a period of time until they are able to fully re-index you. Remember,  Google isn't psychic- you cannot change the urls of your posts and think Google will be able to figure out where all those posts went unless you use a self healing 301 redirect feature. 

Read also: Permalinks explained

2. Name categories anything you want

When you hear, "Don't worry about how you name your categories," ignore it.  Be specific- write them for users and search engines.  Make them keyword rich and easily identifiable ESPECIALLY if your permalink structure uses the category name in your url.

3. Posting to multiple categories causes duplicate content and you'll get banned

When you hear someone telling WordPress users that posting to multiple categories will cause duplicate content (the implication is you will be banned from Google), use some logic:  There are times when this can happen but your little blog with a handful (hundreds +) of posts isn't even a blip on the radar to Google, so if you think you will get banned for duplicating a page here or there- don't be so egotistical, they don't care.  Duplicate content filters are looking for colossal offenders like spam sites that mirror thousands of pages across domains. Or, you can solve the whole problem by not passing category or parameter info in the url... wow, there is a simple fix to the whole supposed problem, imagine that.

Read also: Duplicate content filters explained

4. Gang commenting, reciprocal linking and the like is a good way to build backlinks

When you hear someone advocating a group of bloggers to form a gang and comment on each others posts with keyword rich text or link to one another in blogrolls, STEER CLEAR OF IT.  Jay Thompson covered this one extensively.  This is best compared to Revenge of the Nerds.  A whole bunch of PageRank 0s commenting on each other's posts with each others keywords to boost relevancy is pointless.  It's not hard to imagine that Google is able to look and say look all these links coming and going from the same places - sure looks like reciprocal linking to me.  FYI: the days of commenting for backlinks are over- everyone puts no-follow tags in their comments now. The keyword usage was ridiculous as it just looked like spam to both Google and users. There is a point where the density gets so high, Google just considers your page irrelevant. 

Read also: Google slaps real estate blogs for reciprocal linking

Read also: Does Google hate your link love?

5. Large blogrolls and more than 120 links on your homepage is not bad for SEO

Telling the entire blogosphere, a large blogroll in your sidebar is fine or more than 120 links on your home page is acceptable.  Go ask some of the bloggers struck down in the blaze of glory that was Google's last two PageRank Updates.  You bloat your page past the 120 link threshold and there is a good chance you will be penalized because you look like a link farm to Google.

Read also: Google hates your blogroll

6. Use a lot of chicklets to show how popular you are and help social networking

20, 30, 40 useless chicklets and advertising in your footer is totally cool. This won't look like link farming to Google at all.  One of the key ways of gaining trust with Google is gaining inbound links not doling out your links (that probably have little value unless you are a PR5 or above) to others.  Don't waste your links.  Use them wisely and with discrimination.  You only have 120, so use them for navigation or give them to sites your visitors will find useful.  My personal opinion is many chicklets people put on their blogs are only there to stroke the bloggers ego.  Wow, I'm #1 on such and such blog directory- does the consumer you are trying to convert care about that?

7. An un-moderated forum will help you increase the number of indexed pages in Google so your site will climb the SERPs faster

You know, this strategy probably will help you get more indexed pages, help you generate more traffic and show up higher in the SERPs... for terms related to porn and prescription medication! Putting an un-moderated forum on a blog to increase the number of indexed pages is just irresponsible.  If you think you can stomach the results of this faux pas, click the link below.

Read also: Un-moderated forum makes me blush

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How to identify an SEO imposter

If your source for SEO advice gives one pieces of advice then contradicts it a month later, your SEO might be an imposter

If they make money selling houses and not technology services, your SEO might be an imposter

If your expert's examples of SEO are only related to their website with no proven ability to replicate those results on other websites, your SEO might be an imposter

If your expert's examples of SEO are Stupid Examples and Observations,  your SEO might be an imposter

If your SEO expert tells you Google is bad and Google just doesn't understand how brilliant your website is, your SEO might be an imposter

If you follow your expert's advice and your website or blog loses PageRank or search engine positioning, your SEO might be an imposter

If you can't find your website with Google, two hands, a flashlight, a GPS and the URL, your SEO might be an imposter

If your SEO gives you advice but cannot explain (from a technical perspective) why they believe that advice will benefit you, your SEO might be an imposter

How to avoid BAD SEO ADVICE

Always ask why the person giving you advice is recommending it and before you implement it, make sure that a respected authority in the SEO word seconds it by doing a search on Google.

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Posted on January 26, 2008 19:15:38
Comment from: The Instigator [Visitor] Email · http://www.instigator.com

I love the George Carlin stuff, here's mine:


 


If your SEO spends his spare time gardening, your SEO might be an imposter

PermalinkPermalink January 26, 2008 19:21:19
Comment from: Peter [Visitor] Email · http://www.antiventurecapital.com

Hate to say it, but Wal-Mart is about to take over the SEO industry.
http://smartstartup.typepad.com/my_weblog/2008/01/wal-mart-announ.html

PermalinkPermalink January 27, 2008 00:43:05
Comment from: Marius [Visitor] Email · http://superbullus.wordpress.com

i still think that the most important thing is the quality of writting

PermalinkPermalink January 27, 2008 01:55:09
Comment from: Cyndee Haydon [Visitor] Email · http://www.sandbarstosunsets.com

Mary - What a great list  - I've unfortunately learned too many of those lessons enrolled in the school of hard knocks! Where were you 9 months ago when I started blogging! :-)


I wish someone had explained these points to me as straightforward as you just did before I blew out all my permalinks changing a structure at an experienced bloggers suggestion or before I made mybloglog so big it almost ate my home page and definitely caused way to many links (lol) - so while it's great to see visitors - it's was definitely for me than my readers. 


Busy doing a lot of blog house keeping this weekend with a daisy in my hand plucking petals trying to find out if... google loves me, google loves me not, google loves me, google loves me not. I hope I end up with "google loves me"!    


I hope people really read and impliment these suggestions. I loved you "might be an SEO imposter.." series - had me rolling on the floor. 


The reality is a true SEO expert is hard to find and worth their weight in gold - I always learn so much from you - thanks for sharing your knowledge! 

PermalinkPermalink January 27, 2008 02:45:17
Comment from: Laurie.Manny [Member] Email · http://www.longbeachrealestatehome.com
Laurie.Manny

I saw an ad on AR yesterday for a guy offering SEO advice at a discount to AR members.  Visited his site, a PR0, not a 'no page rank'.  Yeah, that's somebody to trust fer sure...'let me do for you what I can't even do for myself!' 

PermalinkPermalink January 27, 2008 07:58:48
Comment from: Guest [Visitor] Email · http://www.rsspieces.com
Mary.McKnight

Cyndee,


What is so wonderful about on page SEO mistakes that affect SERP is that you can recover from major mistakes like too many links on a home page very quickly (1-2 days if you write a new post after making changes).  Other stuff like reciprocal linking can take a lot longer to recover from.  In your case, it already looks like you have been reformed in Google's eyes.  Congrats on making back to Page 1 for some ofyour search terms and I look forward to seeing Google reward you at the next PR update.  You have a wonderful blog and wish you all the best at keeping it in Big Daddy G's good graces.


-Mary

PermalinkPermalink January 27, 2008 10:02:54
Comment from: James Bridges [Visitor] Email · http://www.onlinerealestatesuccess.com

Great advice.  I think one of the most often used methods that is told to real estate professionals is that of reciprocal linking because some people still think it is the thing to do, so I am glad you brought that up in the first paragraph. 


Rand Fishkin and Aaron Wall are definitely some of my favorites because they definitely try to make the information clear for everyone to use and the lifetime updates on the SEOBook is a pretty good deal :)

PermalinkPermalink January 27, 2008 10:46:54
Comment from: Jay Thompson [Visitor] Email · http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com

Good post Mary! Thanks for pointing out the "gang commenting". That one just drives me bonkers. Google employs a bunch of smart people. Ya think they won't be able to figure out the same people are leaving keyword packed comments on each others blogs??

And Google aside, it just plain looks silly. Not only is Google smart, so are blog readers.

PermalinkPermalink January 27, 2008 12:35:14
Comment from: Marc Blasi [Visitor] Email · http://www.PalmBeachRealEstateAndLoans.com

Too many people still hope for the quickie SEO fix, as opposed to the one(s) that take a little time, but DO work.


I can't believe that I still get link requests - clueless.


The laziness keeps spreading.......

PermalinkPermalink January 27, 2008 12:51:33
Comment from: Guest [Visitor] Email · http://www.rsspieces.com
Mary.McKnight

Jay,


Thanks, that was a great post about the commenting ring.  There is a difference between keyword rich content and flat out keyword spamming and that was one of those killing two Bad SEO advice birds with one stone; commenting for reciprocal links and keyword spamming.  I wonder who's hair brained idea that was... whoever told people to do that should have their keyboard replaced with an etch-a-sketch.

PermalinkPermalink January 27, 2008 15:42:27
Comment from: Dennis Blackmore [Visitor] Email · http://www.realestatevirginiabeachhomes.com

The problem is that people dont know how much they dont know about SEOtology until they meet someone like Magnificant Mary!


I am rapidly leaving the blogfog with her guidance.

PermalinkPermalink January 27, 2008 17:32:43
Comment from: kermit johnson [Visitor] Email · http://www.realestatewtincities.net

Do you think that putting my existing posts into additional categories is a bad idea in terms of SEO?

PermalinkPermalink January 28, 2008 01:23:13
Comment from: Halfdeck [Visitor] Email · http://www.seo4fun.com/blog/

"Always ask why the person giving you advice is recommending it and before you implement it, make sure that a respected authority in the SEO word seconds it by doing a search on Google."


Nice post overall Mary, but here's the cold hard truth:


You cannot blindly trust anyone's opinion on SEO. Even Aaron Wall managed to get two of his own sites banned, and then failed to get them unbanned because he believed his tactics are either gray hat or would go undetected. REW, which advises white-hat SEO and sells SEO services, are now in the process of trying to get itself unpenalized (the home page TBPR is down to 3, and its not ranking for its own name). Even Rand Fishkin once said that PageRank is not the cause of supplemental results - he turned out to be wrong.


You also cannot judge SEO prowess based on reputation built on marketing via conferences, blog posts, forum contributions, networking. They only prove those SEOs are great at building their brand and building alliances. Whether or not that skill can be channeled into doing the same for a site in a different vertical is open to question.


There was one high-profile link baiter that I referred a client to - my client ended up blowing a few K and 0 links. That really drove home the point to me that just because someone's got a big profile on Sphinn or Digg doesn't mean the guy will do more than just go through the motions.


Now, don't get me wrong - I respect all those guys. But if you are going to pay for SEO, look for someone with a proven track record. If you want answers, post your URL at Google Group Webmaster Help. There's more real SEO discussion going on in that forum than all the SEO blogs out there combined.

PermalinkPermalink January 28, 2008 08:55:16
Comment from: Joseph Bridges [Visitor] Email · http://www.internetrealestatesuccess.com

Those are definitely some of the top SEO people in the country by far. Also everyone should note that Top SEO people do not make cold calls to real estate professionals. That is a big hint that they are not SEO experts and that they are just trying to get business from real estate professionals.


Also remember if you are in the business of Real Estate some of the writings by Aaron Wall and Rand Fishkin may be above your technical knowledge. My brother, James Bridges(who also posted on this post), and I were technology consultants to fortune 500 clients prior to real estate so the information from these gentleman makes sense but I would encourage others not to get to hung up on the tiny details and make sure to focus on posting high quality real estate content.

PermalinkPermalink January 28, 2008 12:59:19
Comment from: Guest [Visitor] Email · http://www.rsspieces.com
Mary.McKnight

Kermit,


That is fine.  Go ahead and post them to multiple categories - however, since you have already pinged those posts, you probably won't garner any additional value fo them unless you just want to make those posts more "finable" for users.

PermalinkPermalink January 28, 2008 13:06:44
Comment from: Jason Brown [Visitor] Email · http://www.jbprealtygroup.com

When "SEO experts" contact me and ask "are you interested in being seen on the FIRST page of Google?", I tell them I'm very interested in learning how they can get me on Google's home page.


 

PermalinkPermalink January 31, 2008 13:51:55
Comment from: Mike Brown [Visitor] Email · http://www.deretiree.com

REBlogGirl,

Thanks for the great post. I remember you from the REW boards a while back. Your site looks incredible, great use of color and images.

Even after spending years on the messageboards and blogs I have no idea as to what works and what does not for SEO but somehow I've been pretty lucky at keeping my sites on the first page of G for most of my keywords.

I wish there were a "10 steps to top rankings" that really worked but unfortunately it seems to change every couple months.

Anyways, thanks for the great post and you just got yourself another regular reader!

PermalinkPermalink February 03, 2008 04:55:01
Comment from: Pamela Rader [Visitor] Email · http://www.mobile-settlements.com
*****

I have, quite sadly, followed number 1 & 2.  I learned quickly by reading reputable sources, like Mary!  Thatnks for steering folks clear of this garbage.

PermalinkPermalink June 05, 2008 17:17:32
Comment from: Mindy Allen [Visitor] Email · http://mindyallen.wordpress.com/
*****

This is great...I know I have contacted you a few times when I heard SEO advice that sounded sketchy.  It is difficult for novice bloggers to sift through the junk that's out there! Thanks!

PermalinkPermalink June 28, 2008 13:28:00
Comment from: Roshni Poddar [Visitor] Email · http://www.healthtip.info/
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I read your post but recently my website was spammed by google and whne contact all seo experts all said me to change my url. i did completely then only i got my website reindexed(sure i had to request google). But at times it is a must to play with your permalink(if needed).

PermalinkPermalink June 30, 2008 22:05:03
Comment from: Chris Banners [Visitor] Email · http://www.letsgobanners.com

I can't believe how many companies have been telemarketing our firm asking if "we would like to be 'partnered' with Google to get us first-page rankings.  I know just enough to ask them "how" they managed to partner with Google to get "first page rankings" for the measley sum of a couple grand a month (plus or minus) the key word competition.


They assure me that Google gives them favor.


Seo firms get a bad rap from this. It reminds me of a great attorney joke:


99% of the regular attorneys give the 1% (rest of us) a bad name.

PermalinkPermalink October 29, 2008 06:28:05
Comment from: Lincrasto [Visitor] Email · http://www.widecircles.com

he reality is a true SEO expert is hard to find and worth their weight
in gold - I always learn so much from you - thanks for sharing your
knowledge!


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Linc


 


http://www.widecircles.com

PermalinkPermalink November 19, 2008 23:42:28
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